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Ok. Well even at a cost of 3 ssp for all support ships, I could get on board. Having the freebie built is enough, otherwise I tend to spam them as well..

 

No, I'm sorry I need to clarify.
I propose as the most streamlined solution that actually reflects the value of these ships, the cost of each support ship could be raised to 3SSP, regardless of how that ship was acquired.
It does not need to scale at this rate.
3SSPs is not prohibitive as far as maintenance costs go. Researching the tech gives you a free one, that means you do not incur the cost of building a ship, so I would pay that gladly. However, at 3SSP each, I would not be spamming these ships.

 

So are you proposing free of SSP cost on the ones granted via tech or the militia bonus and 3 SSP (per ship) for any you have to actually build?

 

Perhaps not Joe3, as your game starts to go long, the ability to generate SSPs increases.
I'm running a lot of sessions right now to get a large sample size before committing my thoughts, you could be surprised by how high you can get your SSP count with a determined effort.
For me it isn't as much about limiting the number of support ships a player uses, rather it's about a proportionate cost for these "gargantuan" ships that confer the benefits that they do.

 

Speaking just for myself, I hope you leave it at 2. Otherwise, in a long game, I think I'd have to consider scrapping some of them. Reference Konstantin's post, above.

 

Just some quick clarification on this, what you wrote is partially true,
In the past, it was the thought of researching the tech, building the ship, (quite an undertaking early on), and the SSP combined that deterred me.

With the current situation of getting a free ship once the tech is researched, I would certainly allow the 3 SSP for one. It would also be more in line with their capabilities, what do you think?

 

What about a compromise then, the free support ship via tech, and possibly the free one by Militia event can be kept at the current 2 SSPs
After that, go for the kill, 4 SSP each. It should keep things from getting out of hand. You would get your first ship at 2, and additional ones would cost 4

 

Funny enough, after I posted this, I too ran into a system with 2 ideal and three tolerable worlds in it.
In that case, allow me to re-phrase your honor
5 planets is rare... but not inconceivable.

 

Saying that I never exaggerate would be an exaggeration but I tend to weight my words carefully, see the screenshot above For me, these are good planets, already colonized two

 

For me all these planets are decent I took Resilient Settlers perk and I intend to colonize all of them! I don't care if they will suffer from bad conditions, my race must prevail at all costs!!!

Yes, that is why I wanted to propose as well. Player could pick what planet he would like to boost and if no choice has been made, a planet with smallest production capability could be picked automatically.

That is not a bad idea either, although it complicates math a little, might be hard to grasp when you look at your summary of SSP usage.

Of course, they are great idea which just need a little balancing, that is all.

 

Excellent!

I know this wasn't for me, and 5 planets is an exaggeration , two however in the same system happens often enough, and three is not un-heard of... however, if something were done as you suggest about SSPs to maintain these ships, Then I think it would balance very nicely.

 

I agree with this, especially now where you get a free one by researching the tech, and can also get another one by event choice.
Then of course there is this

I take advantage of this too much, though my own "house rules" mean that I limit myself to a maximum of two such ships.

Perhaps, altering them to give a small flat boost, to a single colony rather than an entire system, would offer better balance?

 

@Joe3 you just need to hoover your mouse over certain elements in the game and you will get an explanation. For example, if you produced a support ship and it is orbiting around your system, then you can go to a planet on this system, hoover mouse over production and you will see how much you are gaining from support ship.

 

Yest, that is what I meant. In my opinion they give you a huge boost at the begining and then you can snowball with them. Also they give you boost for entire system, so if you have 5 planets in the system you got 5 times more production out of one ship

What I mean by snowball? I mean, that one ship makes easier to construct another one, then you can use these two to construct third and so on...

 

Dumb question Nr. 268,434: What is OP? Over Powered? Over Priced?

But just to continue the thread, I managed to build 2 last game, but honestly, I don't know how much impact they had on their systems. Of course I didn't look at my planet/system summary either.

Which brings up another thought: this game has a LOT of good stuff in it, but it's not always apparent what it is or what it does, or what it results in, etc., etc. That's an observation, not a complaint. I'm fairly sure the devs will deal with that aspect eventually. I hope.