Can't progress battle due to large number of ships

In regard to my other post I'm not getting attcked by these big fleets and can't get past the first turn. The AI makes some moves but then it just stalls. Over 200 ships in their fleet.

 

Around turn 480. Here's a screenshot of how much land Moltor has




This is what the battle looks like against about 220 units. I counted two fleets one with 164 or so ships and then one with over 200. There might be more fleets like that.

Note it doesn't actually display 200 on the tactical screen, they must be stacked:

 

My Titan stats are quite a bit higher than theirs so want to try this fight Check out my attack and damage modifiers.

Captained by this guy:

Expensive but might be worth it

 

Yup just messing around on this one as I know it will be patched. I'm slowly trying to whittle them down. They keep sending this massive fleet to one of the systems I'm attacking. They should break it up into smaller ones and do some actual damage to me.

Since I can flee each time it renders their fleet useless. Then again I'm on average so I bet the AI is not programmed to be as aggressive on this level.

But should the AI have this big of a fleet? That seems a separate issue from the leader.

Saw them field an even bigger fleet now:

 

And to clarify this title of this thread. I can at least do auto combat so that it makes me flee. I just can't do the battle manually.

 

What do you think caused it to get like this then?

 

Ok just to be clear the red is the AI (and the big fleet is theirs). So not a mop up in that sense if that's what you mean. In this case I wasn't trying to extend the play time it just worked out that way. They did win the council but I played on so I guess in that respect I did keep it going.

 

Ha yes I just remembered that when posting. So that does explain it to an extent. But I think it should still work if you go beyond that point.

When losing to the council I think says you can either submit to that and the game ends, or the factions go to war to you. That isn't explicitly saying you lost, just giving an option to surrender or fight. So I am actually abiding by the rules of the game by continuing. This is different from when you win the council and tell it to keep playing as then it makes sense to quit unless you want to keep going (and in that case the situation would be reverse, you wouldn't have the AI fielding large fleets thus avoiding this problem ever coming up).

If the game shouldn't progress then it should say we lost and then ask if you want to continue if you want (at your own risk).

Maybe on a harder level the AI would have got me by now.

But the main issue here is that they are fielding such a large fleet for no strategic reason from what I can see. If the AI was written to not make big fleets like that then that should fix the problem. That would avoid the bandaid of having to limit the engagements in the first place (unless a player made a large fleet like that but then that's their own doing and would be purposely breaking the game).

 

Maybe cap the AI fleets to something smaller like 50 or so unless the player is also fielding large fleets. In other words only have the AI make such big fleets when it actually needs to.

From what I've seen the auto resolve works fine on this large fleet. That way if a player wanted to make large fleets they can and just use the auto resolve in that case (and the AI would respond with large fleets too).

But for cases like mine when someone wants to play longer we can still do manual battles as long as the AI is programmed not to make fleets that choke the AI battle screen (where those large fleets serve no purpose for helping the AI - in fact, the super large fleet they are making is actually hurting their efforts to stop me as snipe one system at a time as they try to follow me around). Then it's a win-win, better AI and the ability to play longer games.

 

Yes agree the AI should have gone after me. More importantly they need to not have so big of fleets. Even if they did go after me right away with a large fleet then it would be an issue but I'm not sure what size it was at the time. As long as they don't make big fleets even if they didn't go after me right away it would have been fine.

There might not need to be an artificial limit on the fleet size, the AI just needs to create them more effectively. Then that problem will solve itself in most cases unless someone really dragged out the game. That will also allow a bit more freedom for players to go longer if they want and the AI can still maintain itself.

 

What's the max display on the battle map? It seemed around 30 ships.